Paul interviews Jake, Jake interviews Paul

Today I am joined in the studio by my dear friend, photographer-not-astronaut, Jake Garn.  Jake joins me often in the studio. He’s one of my favorite people in the world to have deep and ridiculous conversations with.  On past episodes, we have tromped through the headlines, making fun of them, tossed around various conspiracy theories, and just laughed a lot at the expense of those who wear their tinfoil hats too much.  Today it was our intention to provide a discussion with a little more substance than usual. In the first half of the show, I interviewed Jake about the value of passion and how that informs his work with Shoot For Love.  In the second half of the show, Jake interviewed me.

Here are some links to things we referenced during the show:

Language of inspiration – B&H Superstore in Manhattan

Lazy Rule of Thirds


“Nobody tells this to people who are beginners, I wish someone told me. All of us who do creative work, we get into it because we have good taste. But there is this gap. For the first couple years you make stuff, it’s just not that good. It’s trying to be good, it has potential, but it’s not. But your taste, the thing that got you into the game, is still killer. And your taste is why your work disappoints you. A lot of people never get past this phase, they quit. Most people I know who do interesting, creative work went through years of this. We know our work doesn’t have this special thing that we want it to have. We all go through this. And if you are just starting out or you are still in this phase, you gotta know its normal and the most important thing you can do is do a lot of work. Put yourself on a deadline so that every week you will finish one story. It is only by going through a volume of work that you will close that gap, and your work will be as good as your ambitions. And I took longer to figure out how to do this than anyone I’ve ever met. It’s gonna take awhile. It’s normal to take awhile. You’ve just gotta fight your way through.”

Ira Glass


War of Art by Steven Pressfield

“Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, ‘Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous?’ Actually, who are you not to be? You are a child of God. Your playing small does not serve the world. There is nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people won’t feel insecure around you. We are all meant to shine, as children do. We were born to make manifest the glory of God that is within us. It’s not just in some of us; it’s in everyone. And as we let our own light shine, we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same. As we are liberated from our own fear, our presence automatically liberates others.”

– Marianne Williamson


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