Mormonism and Islam: faiths of peace and love?

Here is a video of a man and woman being executed by members of the Muslim faith in Iran for having a love affair.  This “sin” according to Islamic law, is punishable by death.  The video is grainy, but you’ll get the idea. Do all Muslims practice this? Of course not. It’s just the most radical and depraved Muslims that carry this out:

Okay, now that we’ve seen that, take a moment to read what Mormon Prophet Heber J Grant had to say about the issue of sexual purity:

“There is no true Latter-day Saint who would not rather bury a son or daughter than to have him or her lose his or her chastity—realizing that chastity is of more value than anything else in all the world.” Prophet Heber J Grant, as quoted by another prophet, Spencer W. Kimball, in his book Miracle of Forgiveness

christ and the woman taken in adulteryIn John Chapter 8, we read about Jesus’s encounter with the adulterous woman and the people who also felt that adultery should be followed by death, just like some Muslims and Mormon Prophets. Here’s what Jesus Christ said about the matter:

 

1 Jesus went unto the mount of Olives.

2 And early in the morning he came again into the temple, and all the people came unto him; and he sat down, and taught them.

3 And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst,

4 They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act.

5 Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou?

6 This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his fingerwrote on the ground, as though he heard them not.

7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.

8 And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground.

9 And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst.

10 When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee?

11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.

 

If you are an active Mormon, this part is specifically for you. Feel free to comment below. Heber J Grant was a PROPHET OF GOD, in the view of Mormons. His words were then quoted again by another Prophet, Spencer W Kimball, in his seminal work “The Miracle Of Forgiveness” (which is de facto required reading for any who commit sins of a sexual nature in the church). Mormons are fond of quoting 2 Corinthians 13:1 “In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established” as a way of establishing the veracity of doctrines. This idea that it would be better for your own child to DIE, than to commit a sexual “sin”, has been established in the mouth of 2 witnesses: Prophets of God

Do you agree with this?

Do you feel like the prophets were right?

Have you committed any sexual sins?

Do you think you should be murdered for them?

Would you be willing to kill your son or daughter, if you found out that they had sex with their boyfriend or girlfriend?

If you hold a temple recommend, you’ve answered these next two questions in the affirmative before:

  • Do you have a testimony of the restoration of the gospel in these the latter days?
  • Do you sustain the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as the Prophet, Seer, and Revelator?

If you have answered YES to these questions, you have also accepted what Heber J Grant and Spencer W Kimball have said about your own child’s death.

…Now, what were you saying about The Church Of Jesus Christ Of Latter-day Saints being Christ’s true church?

 Addendum:

This next part is for some specific people. You’ll know who you are…. There is someone in your family that has “committed the ultimate sin” by having sex with someone she loved, and is now expecting a baby. The parents are not married.  You continually refer to your first grandson as an “illegitimate child”.  When are you going to stop calling your own posterity “illegitimate”?  Is this the legacy you want your grandson to grow up with, knowing that you loathed it’s very existence? You continually say things that bring shame and guilt to your daughter. Though you have not picked up any physical stones, you have been casting stones all the same.  You profess to be a Christian, a proud member of the Church Of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.  Paul taught that you should be an example of the believers, and in this, you have failed miserably. Is it any wonder that your children despise the church? Your own Lord and Savior taught on countless occasions that, “by their fruits, ye shall know them”.  A good branch does not bring forth bad fruit. Every word from your mouth has been foul and devoid of love. It is time for you to start acting like Jesus would. You make a mockery of your own faith. .  

If you can’t even attempt to walk the walk,  you really need to stop talking the talk, thou hypocrite.

It was you of whom Jesus Christ spoke when he said,

“This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips, bu their heart is far from me”  (Matthew 15:8)

 

Paul Duane

Paul Duane is a photographer, writer, and talk show host based in Salt Lake City, Utah.

3 Comments

  1. My father continually referenced that HJG quote while I was growing up – telling me straight up that he (my dad) would rather that I be dead than unchaste…& I fully believed him & was fearful of him.  Definitely not a healthy way to live.

  2. Not everything a prophet said is considered prophetic.The LDS church operates under a principle called common consent, for any new concept to be considered doctrine it must be voted on by the first presidency, quorum of the 12 and then the members.  Only when that happens are a prophets words considered doctrine.
     
    Trying to claim doctrine when there isn’t doctrine is disingenuous.  Prophets are still mortals, mortals are allowed to have opinions.  I think your conclusions are a bit of a stretch, but I like how you pointed out the Savior’s words on the matter, as scripture IS considered doctrine, I’m going to go with what Jesus said.  :)

    •  @jakegarn “Not everything a prophet said is considered prophetic.”  I happen to agree!  And not everything that the other “prophet seers and revelators”, aka, Apostles, say, is accurate. Not everything your bishop says is right.  And not everything that is said in priesthood blessings by your home teacher is correct, either.  They are all just decent, albeit imperfect, men doing the best they can to do what they believe is right, and they speak truth a lot of the time. Not a huge accomplishment. The homeless crazy dudes around my house speak a lot of truth a lot of the time, too in their bottom shelf vodka inspired rantings.   The words of Heber J Grant were also recapitulated by another prophet, Spencer W Kimball.  And the insistence of church leadership on using that text millions of times over to enforce edicts of repentance, gives it a bit of credence too.  Try telling your bishop that he and the brethren were mistaken when it comes to ____________, and that he should just go ahead and hand over a Temple Recommend.   ;-)   Not agreeing with everything the brethren say is called Apostasy, and it is punished severely.   Now, what were we saying about “common consent”?  Church leaders are certainly allowed to have opinions – when was the last time you heard President Monson give his thoughts on the best prime rib in town?  Never, because it’s not relevant to the church membership. But when something gets published and referenced millions of times over the years, one has to say that a statement has been elevated to something more than an “opinion”.

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